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May 24, 2013 0:28:57 GMT
Post by Pincho Paxton on May 24, 2013 0:28:57 GMT
Even if the Universe has a brain, it couldn't create it's own brain, so you still have the same random creation. So it still has to be simple, and so to understand it you need to learn how simple things grow.
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May 24, 2013 0:42:03 GMT
Post by sandhi on May 24, 2013 0:42:03 GMT
Even if the Universe has a brain, it couldn't create it's own brain, so you still have the same random creation. So it still has to be simple, and so to understand it you need to learn how simple things grow.
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May 24, 2013 0:44:44 GMT
Post by sandhi on May 24, 2013 0:44:44 GMT
Pincho......my posts are not posting after I typed them ! I wrote a few sentences in response to your post that I quoted....but it didn't get posted along with your quote !
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May 24, 2013 0:52:00 GMT
Post by sandhi on May 24, 2013 0:52:00 GMT
Even if the Universe has a brain, it couldn't create it's own brain, so you still have the same random creation. So it still has to be simple, and so to understand it you need to learn how simple things grow. Why I said was: If the Universe had a brain...it would have created it's own brain ! [All there is,is the Universe, so what else would be there to create it ?] So whatever is in the Universe is of the Universe. And supposedly by the Boltzmann Theory....if the Universe is infinite, it had all infinity to evolve into this materialized brain material...so it is possible....as it is [suposedly possible for a million monkeys with a million typewriters to eventually randomly type the complete works of Shakespeare !!
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May 24, 2013 10:59:22 GMT
Post by Pincho Paxton on May 24, 2013 10:59:22 GMT
Why I said was: If the Universe had a brain...it would have created it's own brain ! [All there is,is the Universe, so what else would be there to create it ?] So whatever is in the Universe is of the Universe. And supposedly by the Boltzmann Theory....if the Universe is infinite, it had all infinity to evolve into this materialized brain material...so it is possible....as it is [suposedly possible for a million monkeys with a million typewriters to eventually randomly type the complete works of Shakespeare !! The universe randomly creates the brain. What I meant was the Universe doesn't create the brain by any logic.
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May 25, 2013 2:38:29 GMT
Post by sandhi on May 25, 2013 2:38:29 GMT
Why did we develop brains ? If this Universe isn't logical, and everything is random [chaos], then why is there so much order ?
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May 25, 2013 9:28:51 GMT
Post by Pincho Paxton on May 25, 2013 9:28:51 GMT
I think it's because of the way that sphere stack up. If the Universe was full of sphere they would stack up in similar shapes to nature. You look at the sea, it's stacked sphere, and you get waves, and the waves break the rocks, and you get sand which is also stacked up, and you then get sediment which is also stacked up. If you look closely at stacked sphere you get hexagons. If the sphere are hollow you can bead through the hexagons to link them together. Holes, and fillers.
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May 26, 2013 15:22:33 GMT
Post by sandhi on May 26, 2013 15:22:33 GMT
But in evolution, there is a reason as to why things evolve. I really don't know anything about evolution, but I know we need oxygen to breathe...and without the evolution of trees and other forms of plant life, we wouldn't have oxygen in the atmosphere, so why did we develop lungs ? What were we before we became human ? Did we originate from the ocean ?
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May 26, 2013 16:31:24 GMT
Post by Pincho Paxton on May 26, 2013 16:31:24 GMT
Evolution is hard to work out. If you make a computer program that evolves it is still hard to figure out what your computer program is doing. I made a computer program of a tank that learns to collect mines, even though I wrote it, it did unexpected things that looked like life.
These two words are almost polar opposites...
Understanding Randomness
They make sense when you read them together, but they are so different.
Understanding... things put in a sequence that makes sense to you.
Randomness... things without order, that do not make sense.
So when you try to understand evolution, you are attempting to create order in your mind where there is no order.
The only thing that makes much sense is that particles of life keep moving. You breath, you keep particles moving, your blood flow, and heart keep particles moving. Blood stops, it clots. The randomness of breathing seems to be part of stopping particles from getting stuck together.. bonding. The bonding I think is to do with gravity flow. So the randomness could be all based on life beating gravity.
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